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The Oath of the President of the United States

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

The case could be made that Obama has violated the oath of the office of the Presidency of the United States in not closing the borders at the threat of a global pandemic of the Mexican flu, the violations of the U.S. Constitution in the CIFTA, and his refusal to clarify the circumstances of his birth. Think about it.

MEXICAN WOLF RECOVERY - COLLATERAL DAMAGE IDENTIFICATION

WARNING: GRAPHIC PICTURES MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR WOLF LOVERS & SMALL CHILDREN

Catron County Wolf Incident Investigator, Jess Carey, provide ORF with this document. This is what the ranchers in western New Mexico are living with.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=gmail&attid=0.1&thid=12e740df9705f324&mt=application/pdf&url=https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui%3D2%26ik%3Db2e1154c85%26view%3Datt%26th%3D12e740df9705f324%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zw&sig=AHIEtbQTV_dgqwDweaJO_z9FKGvH0SJ6pw&pli=1

CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES (A TREATY SIGNED IN THE
UN).
http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/enmod/text/environ2.htm

Wednesday, December 5, 2007

CORONER'S INQUEST INTO DEATH OF MAN KILLED BY WOLVES

CLICK ON THE TITLE OF THIS POST TO READ A CRITICAL ARTICLE IN NEWSPAPER FROM THE HEART OF WOLF RELEASE REGION.

1 comment:

Bruce Woodhull said...: Coroner’s jury says Carnegie killed by wolves

(Note: Yooper is a term to describe someone living in the Upper Peninsula, or "Yoop," of Michigan. For those still clinging to the hope that this happened in a place distant from them and those they love, I offer this saying: You'll know it's true when it happens to you. There's a reason information about Kenton Joel Carnegie and others impacted by wolf attacks is posted prominently at my website's Home Page: http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org. As "captive breeders" continue under contract to breed large predators for "re" introduction in many states, I could not live with myself if I did not continue to warn people. This is happening in our times. It is not ancient history. It is carnage and it is being foisted upon people in rural areas by agency employees with "recovery" agendas to fulfill. Which large predator is scheduled to come to your neighborhood -- or has it already arrived? Should you call it a Texas cougar or a "Florida panther?" Is it really endangered? No one should have to face wolves as Kenton did. Kenton Carnegie Memorial website: http://www.mtechservices.ca/Kenton/Kenton.html Below the article is a poem posted to Kenton's memorial site by his mother, Lori Carnegie.)

December 2007 issue

By C. J. Williams cjwms@up.net

The Yooper Spectator

1425 Cedar Street

Hancock, Michigan 49930

906-482-4692; 906-370-2372 (cell)

http://www.yooperspectator.com

To submit a Letter to the Editor: yooper49930@charter.net

On November 1, 2007, after almost two years with no closure, the parents of Kenton Carnegie, age 22 at the time of his death, suffered the ordeal of a coroner’s inquest that finally brought an end to their quest for the truth of how their son died to be told to the public.

After viewing horribly graphic pictures and listening to contradictory testimony given by two experts, as well as the testimony of those who found Kenton’s body, a coroner’s jury put to rest the notion that healthy wolves won’t kill humans. Through caretaking consideration of the grisly evidence, the jury found that Kenton Joel Carnegie was indeed attacked, partially eaten, and dragged by a pack of wolves at Points North Landing, Saskatchewan, Canada on November 8, 2005.

Kenton, a third-year Waterloo University geological engineering student said by some to have been gifted with superior intelligence, was working as a geophysicist through a cooperative term placement with an Ontario aerial survey company, Sander Geophysics, in northern Saskatchewan. He had only been with the company for about three weeks before the incident occurred.

Late in the afternoon of November 8, 2005, and with some free time on his hands, Kenton told co-workers he was going for a walk, but expected to be back by suppertime. When he didn’t return for the meal, a search party went looking for him and stumbled upon tracks in the snow that told a gruesome story of the young man’s death.

Earlier newspaper accounts disclosed the young man’s apparent struggle with a wolf pack, as the investigating coroner called to the scene told of coming across signs that Kenton had fought the wolves off at least five times, but managed to get up and take more steps until the wolves finally overpowered him. In fact, searchers claimed the wolves were still near Kenton’s body as the men approached [forcing searches to leave and call] authorities. When coroner Rosalee Tsannie arrived, the wolves could be heard howling close by -- too close for comfort, she said.

Dr. Paul Paquet, an adjunct professor with the Faculty of Environmental Design at the University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada, is a wildlife expert who was hired by the chief coroner’s office to investigate the death and prepare a report. He was one of two such experts allowed by the coroner to testify at the inquest.

Dr. Paquet serves on the board of the United Nations' International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and the board of the “Large Carnivore Initiative for Europe,” which is a Working Group of the IUCN’s Species Survival Commission. The proclaimed wolf expert, whose work typically addresses the role played by humans and by development plans in ecosystems, has been co-director of the Central Rockies Wolf Project, Canmore, Alberta, Canada, which he co-founded. He has worked extensively on “real-world” management, which -- according to him -- depends to a large extent upon human attitudes.

In an accounting of the inquest, CanWest News Service reporter Chris Purdy wrote that Dr. Paquet said the way Carnegie was attacked, eaten and dragged through the bush suggested that a bear was responsible, but because there’s never been a documented case of a wolf killing a human in the wild in North America, it’s difficult to determine what a fatal wolf attack would look like. “We don’t know much about humans as prey for wolves and how they might respond,” said Paquet.

At considerable personal expense, Kenton’s parents asked two scientists to investigate the matter of their son’s death, but when the coroner limited them to only one who could testify, they chose Mark McNay.

McNay, a wildlife biologist who recently retired as head of research for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, refuted Paquet’s testimony about evidence pointing to the feeding behavior of bears.

According to a Canadian Press article, McNay said that “in photographs of the site, what Paquet identified as bear tracks were actually wolf tracks. The tracks were on a lake’s surface, which hadn’t completely frozen over. When the wolf stepped into the ground and broke through to water, the water came up and made the track larger, leading people to believe it was bear tracks.”

Additionally, [although] Paquet’s conjecture was that bears might have been out looking for food, McNay said it was more likely bears were in hibernation at that time of year and that interviews he’d conducted indicated that bears hadn’t been seen in the area for several weeks before, or after, Kenton was killed.

Commenting on the necropsy conducted on two North Points Landing wolves, [which] had human hair and other material in their intestines, McNay said it was highly unlikely that both would have eaten the same hair at a nearby dump on the same day Carnegie was killed.

The wolves, killed three days after Kenton’s body was discovered, were found to be healthy.

McNay also dispelled the myth that wolves don’t attack humans, by saying that’s not the case anymore, because wolves are becoming habitualized and losing their fear of people.

“These incidents of wolves and people, predictably, are going to increase,” said McNay.

Though he was unable to testify on behalf of Kenton Carnegie’s parents, Dr. Valerius Geist kendulf@shaw.ca, former head of the environmental science department at the University of Calgary, submitted a written report to the coroner. In a follow-up after the inquest, Dr. Geist indicated he was gratified that the coroner had kept politics out of it and limited the inquest to the question of who killed the young man, the who being wolves.

However, says Geist, in the matter of what killed Kenton the answer is “the belief that wolves are not dangerous to humans. Consequently, neither the jury nor the public were made aware of the fact that this belief has killed three persons in the recent past, and that it has a very long and most unsavory political history. Thus the attempt to whitewash wolves in the Kenton Carnegie tragedy by blaming bears is but one instance in a very long history of misrepresenting wolves. Moreover, this misrepresentation is not only historical, but ongoing, and involves scientists -- so-called and genuine -- as well as agencies, governments, environmental organizations and, in the past, political parties.”

Furthermore, according to Geist, “The public is being overwhelmed by statements that wolves are harmless, misunderstood creatures, not dangerous to humans. Such a message has come not only from North Americans and Europeans, from environmentalists and Russia’s communist party, from respectable scientists and romantic literati, while evidence to the contrary has been systematically suppressed, censored, belittled, and misrepresented. It’s a sordid history, of which some is a systematic hoodwinking of the public.”

Dr. Geist asks, “Is the public not entitled to know?”

And in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, many hoodwinked Yoopers are asking the same thing.

http://www.cbc.ca/sask/features/wolve s/2.html

http://www.mtechservices.ca/Kenton/ Kenton.html

Copyright 2007, The Yooper Spectator.

http://www.yooperspectator.com/files/YS_Dec_07.pdf (Page 7 of 20 pages; 1.81 MB); December 5, 2007 at 9:09 AM

Federal law is supreme PROVIDED IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT with State law....

...which means if it is not one of the enumerated powers granted to the United States state law is supreme.

28 USC § 1652. State laws as rules of decision

The laws of the several states, except where the Constitution or treaties of the United States or Acts of Congress otherwise require or provide, shall be regarded as rules of decision in civil actions in the courts of the United States, in cases where they apply.

The Supremacy Clause is very specific as to what it says.
“This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land, and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

To fully understand exactly what this means you have to go to Webster’s Dictionary 1828 for the definition of, “notwithstanding.”

NOTWITHSTAND'ING, the participle of withstand, with not prefixed, and signifying not opposing; nevertheless. It retains in all cases its participial signification.

Special thanks to Danny Martinez via R L for getting this valuable information to us.

INTERNATIONAL DEMOCRAT UNION: IMPLEMENTORS OF AGENDA 21

From the IDU website 'PRINCIPLES':
"BEING COMMITTED to advancing the social and political values on which democratic societies are founded, including the basic personal freedoms and human rights, as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; in particular, the right of free speech, organisation, assembly and non-violent dissent; the right to free elections and the freedom to organise effective parliamentary opposition to government; the right to a free and independent media; the right to religious belief; equality before the law; and individual opportunity and prosperity;"

Dozens of new World Heritage Sites named (7/8/08), Have We Dodged the Bullet for Now?

...In the U.S., which is home to 20 sites (two co-managed with Canada), no new
sites have been added to the list since Carlsbad Caverns and Waterton-Glacier
International Peace Park were inscribed in 1995. Unfortunately, that was also
the year that a proposed gold mine near Yellowstone landed the park on UNESCO’s
World Heritage in Danger list; the resulting controversy essentially put the
kibosh on subsequent nominations....
(We can hope at least but we will not give up the fight to protect our Otero County Ordinances. Click link below for full story. Thank you to Luther for your eagle eyes.)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25588745

ALLODIAL LAND TITLE

"An allodial title was bestowed, by law, upon the land with unalienability forever. No government, agency, bank or other sovereign power could place any lien, attachment or encumbrance on land held in an allodial state. An allodial title is derived from the original, federal land patent. "Land Patents" are still today the highest evidence of title and have never been refuted by any court of competent jurisdiction."

http://www.suijuris.net/forum/land-ownership/160-allodial-title-land-patents-ownerships-highest-proof-i.html

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PUBLIC LANDS v. FEDERAL LANDS

Submitted by R L Possey.

There is a very strong misconception that all of the lands in the United States that are managed by the Federal Government are “Public Lands”.
Actually there are very few Public Lands and the vast majority of lands managed by the Federal Government are “Federal Lands”.
“The term public lands, as commonly perceived by the public, indicates lands owned entirely by the federal government and by extension of the citizens of the United States who supposedly own equal shares of the federal government’s assets. Certain federal lands do meet this criterion such as some portions of our national parks and some portions of some game refuges. These are areas where the federal government owns all of the values of the land. However, even in national parks private concessioners own a possessory interest in their visitor facilities that is fully protected by the Concession Policy Act of 1965.
However, the vast majority of our federal lands do not meet the criterion of total ownership in fee. Most of our federal lands, particularly those under the management of the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service, are split estate lands. Lands in this category constitute nearly one third of the land area of he United States.
The federal land management agencies have for the past two decades followed a policy of attempting to deny the existence of private rights in the federal lands. They have attempted to eliminate private rights by one device or another, the establishment of wilderness areas, the protection of wild horses and burros, and the creation on many other special designations that appeal to “the public good” but in fact act to destroy existing private rights. The agencies have attempted to encumber private rights in the federal lands with an overkill of regulations. This attempt to render existing private rights uneconomic has for all practical purposes become the major focus of current federal land policy.”

“Storm Over Rangelands – Private Rights in Federal Lands”
by
Wayne Hage
Second Addition – Pages 91 & 92
Free Enterprise Press – Bellevue

"THE ENERGY NON-CRISIS": LINDSEY WILLIAMS

http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

"Congress has been urged—and sometimes threatened—by special interest groups to take a negative stance on energy production, but they have miserably failed to take proper action to increase our domestic production. In fact, as you read this book you must come to the realization that energy production has been fiercely stifled by "Government Bureaucracy, " and Congress has sat on its collective hands.You, the reader, will be left to make your own conclusions as to why this set of facts and circumstances conflict many times with what we have been told by the news media—which is fed its information by Government Agencies and Departments.

It is with great pride and pleasure that I endorse this manuscript and compliment the authors for taking time to do the research and make it available to all of us."

March 19, 1980

Hugh M. Chance
Former Senator ofThe State of Colorado

NEW MEXICO STATUTE: 30-18-7 MISREPRESENTATION OF PEDIGREE

OTERO COUNTY WOLF INCIDENT INVESTIGATION FORMS

HELP FIGHT LITIGATION BY THE WILDLIFE GUARDIANS AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF NEW MEXICO

Bruce Thompson

http://thewesterner.blogspot.com/
Tuesday, September 16, 2008

NM game director's hunting license may be revoked The head of New Mexico's Game and Fish Department could lose his hunting license for two years after he was accused of illegally shooting a deer on private land. An independent hearing officer heard testimony Monday about a November 2007 incident in which director Bruce Thompson shot a deer on the Diamond T Ranch west of Roswell. It's illegal to hunt on private property in New Mexico without permission from the landowner. The state Game Commission, which has the final say, will likely consider the hearing officer's recommendation at its Oct. 2 meeting....Let's transfer more assets to him too.

NM Game & Fish Director Gets Hunting License Revoked for Two Years

The New Mexico Game Commission on Thursday revoked state Game and Fish Department director Bruce Thompson's hunting privileges for two years, the result of Thompson's shooting a deer on private property nearly a year ago in Lincoln County. Thompson, who has headed Game and Fish since 2003, maintained that he inadvertently used incorrect Global Positioning System coordinates that put him on the privately owned Diamond T Ranch instead of adjacent public land. (Complete Albuquerquer Journal Story of 9/03/08, click below.)

http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/031116590966newsstate10-03-08.htm

Janet asked Mr. Thompson yesterday at the Game Commission yesterday if he had used GPS to get to the meeting. Mr. Thompson replied that he didn't but the driver did.

Public "Input" Sought in Wolf Removal Policy

DEADLINE: June 25, 2008

http://origin.lcsun-news.com/ci_9370679
Public comment sought on changes to wolf removal policy
The Associated Press
Article Launched: 05/24/2008 02:16:23 PM MDT

LAS CRUCES, N.M.—State and federal officials are considering changes to a controversial rule that requires a Mexican gray wolf to be removed from the wild if it preys on livestock three times in a one-year period.
Gov. Bill Richardson has called for the suspension of the rule, known as Standard Operation Procedure 13, to halt the removal of wolves, which numbered about 52 at the end of 2007. Removal can be either by capturing or killing the wolf.
The proposed policy change attempts to address a scenario in which a rancher might intentionally lure a wolf to attack cattle and force its removal, said Terry Johnson, endangered species coordinator for the Arizona Game and Fish Department.

COMMENTS ON WOLF RELEASE POLL IS CLOSED TO "IRREVERANT" QUESTIONS

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME, FOLKS. NO QUESTIONS ABOUT DOCUMENTATION AND FACTS
HERE.

"Southwesterners Want Wolves !
June 16, 2008 —
Brian Ertz
WWPblog links to a poll released today which demonstrates that Southwesterners Want Wolves - by a hefty margin no less
!"

WHEN I BROUGHT UP WESTERN WATERSHEDS PROJECT'S (WWP) IRS 990 FOR 2006.
I GOT A PERSONAL EMAIL FROM THE BLOGGER INSTEAD OF A PUBLIC RESPONSE. WWP'S 990 LISTED A $1,340.000.00 PROPERTY AND OVER $20,000.00 A YEAR IN GRAZING LEASES.
http://www.guidestar.org/
IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG. I WAS BANNED FROM PUBLIC INPUT. "I AM JUST AS PROUD OF MY ENEMIES AS I AM OF MY FRIENDS" - Janet

USDA Issues Memo Mandating NAIS Premises Registration

A new memo out of USDA shows they are pushing ahead with NAIS despite the public protests and even state laws barring mandatory programs.
USDA recently issued a memo to its "Veterinary Services Management Team" that requires NAIS premises registration for various disease program activities. (Veterinary Services Memorandum No. 575.19, posted on our Government Documents Page at http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001NLMsNA8ne5ot_F-Hl89HTrVs6pIBzn5B2QO8NCYTXe-jF_A_UJAFYeetzcSNK0g61iVHffD3RDVTvv8JS8lKlqzvSdpTei1SXVWmMO4l4Z5ho-0bDnOAdlbipZ3-Nt--6k73kYItYSMxe5Pk6O3Kuq4bRvO4ot7H )
The memo includes activities such as vaccinations, testing, and applying official ear tags, for programs for every livestock species, ranging from brucellosis to scrapies to equine infectious anemia. The memo says that people who refuse to have their farms registered will be registered against their will. Thus, USDA has officially abandoned the supposed "voluntary" nature of NAIS. Now animal owners who take government-required steps such as testing and vaccinating their animals may find themselves enrolled in the NAIS premises registration database with or without their consent.

Call your congressmen today. For more info go to: http://farmandranchfreedom.org/content/take-action

Coming to Lincoln National Forest Soon is Our Prediction

July 17, 2008 (Volume 73, Number 138)][Notices] [Page 41028-41030] Santa Fe National Forest, New Mexico, Motorized Travel Management PlanAGENCY: Forest Service, USDA.ACTION: Notice of intent to prepare an environmental impact statement.SUMMARY: The Santa Fe National Forest (Forest) will prepare an environmental impact statement to designate a system of roads, trails, and areas open to motorized travel by class of vehicle and time of year, in accordance with the Agency's 2005 Travel Management Rule. As part of the proposal, the Forest will also address the use of motor vehicles for dispersed camping and big game retrieval. Once a decision is made about which roads, trails, and areas will be open to motorized use, motorized travel off the designated system will be prohibited. The designated roads, trails, and areas will be published on a motor vehicle use map, which will serve as the primary tool for compliance and enforcement. This notice summarizes the proposal, opportunities for public participation, decisions to be made, and estimated dates for publication of documents associated with the project.DATES: Comments about the proposal should be submitted within 45 days of the date of publication of this notice in the Federal Register. The Forest expects to publish the draft environmental impact statement in June 2009 and the final environmental impact statement in September 2009. For public meeting dates, refer to the SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION section.ADDRESSES: Send written comments to Julie Bain, Project Leader, Santa Fe National Forest Travel Management Planning, 1474 Rodeo Road, Santa Fe, NM 87505. Fax comments to (505) 438-7834. Send electronic comments to comments-southwestern-santafe@fs.fed.us with ``Travel Management'' in the subject line. Electronic attachments must be in one of the following formats: .doc, .rtf, .txt, or .pdf.FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Process Information: Julie Bain, Project Leader, Santa Fe National Forest, at (505) 438-7829 or sftravelmgt@fs.fed.us. Technical Information: Diane Taliaferro, Recreation Program Manager, Santa Fe National Forest, at (505) 438-7823 or sftravelmgt@fs.fed.us. The proposed action, maps, and other pertinent information about this project can be found on the Forest's Web site: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/sfe/travelmgt/index.html.

EARTH JUSTICE: INTERNATIONAL CRITERIA USED IN FWS WOLF REINTRODUCTION

Click on this link, scroll down to page 3 and read Earth Justice's claim:
Under the internationally accepted IUCN "Red List Criteria," for instance (previously relied upon by the Service as persuasive authority, but inexplicably disregarded by the agency here), a species must be listed as "vulnerable" when its population falls below 1,000 "mature" individuals. "

Link to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, RED LIST, information on the IUCN's criteria for endangered species and conservation's reliance on international meddling in the domestic policies of federal agencies in the United States.
http://cms.iucn.org/search.cfm?uSearchTerm=RED+LIST

EARTH JUSTICE Intent to sue delisting of Gray Wolf
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/Notice%20of%20Intent%20to%20File%20Suit.pdf

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Great American Jobs Scam, Add it to your Christmas list for City and County Commissioners

For the past 20 years, corporations have been receiving huge tax breaks and subsidies in the name of "jobs, jobs, jobs." But, as Greg LeRoy demonstrates in this important new book, it's become a costly scam.

Playing states and communities off against each other in a bidding war for jobs, corporations reduce their taxes to next-to-nothing and win subsidy packages that routinely exceed $100,000 per job. But the subsidies come with few strings attached. So companies feel free to provide fewer jobs, or none at all, or even outsource and lay people off. They are also free to pay poverty wages without health care or other benefits.

All too often, communities lose twice. They lose jobs--or gain jobs so low-paying they do nothing to help the community--and lose revenue due to the huge corporate tax breaks. That means fewer resources for maintaining schools, public services, and infrastructure. In the end, the local governments that were hoping for economic revitalization are actually worse off. They're forced to raise taxes on struggling small businesses and working families, or reduce services, or both.

Read more:
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12540

Order now: http://www.bkconnection.com/ProdDetails.asp?ID=1576753158

CONTESTANT NUMBER ONE: Bryan Bird of Forest Guardians and Wildearth Guardians.
CONTESTANT NUMBER TWO: Bruce Thompson Director, NM Game and Fish, accused of shooting a protected species on private property. CONTESTANT NUMBER THREE: Michael Shyne. We are aware that there have been no new nominations for way too long. However, as soon as someone is nominated they either fade into the wallpaper or otherwise lie low. Got any nasty and/ or "not the sharpest knife in the drawer" that you want to nominate, feel free.

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Keep This in Your Memory Banks, RS 2477 Roads to Be Closed in LNF

ALAMOGORDO DAILY NEWS
Thursday Sept. 13, 2007

County vows to fight Forest Service over roads
by Karl Anderson – Staff Writer

Otero County plans to take on the Forest Service regarding road access under the Revised Statute 2477, a provision in the 1866 Mining Law that states any road under county jurisdiction, regardless of when that jurisdiction was established, supersedes any subsequent jurisdiction claimed the any other entity, including the Forest Service.
In a discussion at its work session Wednesday, the Otero County Commission expressed its intent to take on the Forest Service regarding roads in the Lincoln Nation Forrest.
“We want to stop the closure of any roads and trails by the Forest Service,” said Commission Chairman Doug Moore. “If they want to challenge any of the roads we claim under R.S. 2477, we’ll duke it out in court.”
“If we have to list every goat trail, butterfly path, and meteor pathway, we will,” Commissioner Clarissa McGinn said. “We want a preemptive action to keep these closures from happening. These closures are going to take place very soon if we don’t stop this.”
Moore said that Forest Service plan is to close nearly half the roads and trails in the Lincoln Nation National Forest.
“Give me some language that will stop us from losing any of the roads and trails we want to keep open for the use and enjoyments of our citizens, “ Moore said. “The cat fight will be on. We intend to pass it on Thursday.”
Otero County Administrator Dr. Martin Moore told Doug Moore that R.S. 2477 reads still owned by the county will include ones that were grandfathered in prior to the 1956 as well as those that existed prior to 1976.
Two large maps were used as references during the meeting. The maps showed all roads with R.S. 2477 status claimed by the county prior to each respective date.
“I want a map combining the two,” McGinn said. “I then want to claim anything on that map that is ours. It needs to be encompassing enough to include all roads, trails, pathways, mines and anything else.”
Doug Moore said GPS coordinates will have to be utilized in the final process.
“A road does not even have to be one that still exists in order to qualify,” he said. “It could be nothing now but a jeep trail or a footpath. Were laying claim to all that is ours, and we’re keeping them open for everyone to enjoy. “We will make this official at our regular meeting on Thursday.”

Tazering, a new therapy?

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Police taser 16 yr old boy over 12 times for having a seizure

Category: Article, Media Coverage, News

Blake Dwyer remembers pain:

The agonizing burn of electrical shock. And shouting. And fear.

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/localnews/stories/DRC_Taser_0518.3dae5bb.htm

UP Date: Heart experts warn Tasers deadly

Category: Article, Media Coverage

Tasers can cause fatal cardiac arrest and are even more dangerous if the subject is agitated, stressed and experiencing pain from the high-voltage device, two top Vancouver heart specialists said Tuesday.

OBAMA TO ABOLISH CITIZEN CLAUSE OF CONSTITUTION?

http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/obamas-team-trying-change-natural

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1131&posts=3

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82680

U.S. CONSTITUTION

Article. II. - The Executive Branch Note

Section 1 - The President Note1 Note2

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

(In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.) (This clause in parentheses has been modified by the 20th and 25th Amendments.)

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

6/11/08
Hi Janet:
Thanks for your email. I
know Michael Nivision is leaving for DC today and will not be at the commission
meeting tomorrow night to report on the Dry Canyon issue raised at the last
meeting. I have directed staff to get any and all information regarding this and
will forward what I find to you.
On the World Heritage discussion from last meeting:
I went back and looked at the minutes from the initial direction to
staff dated Jan.24th regular meeting. There is a lengthly discussion regarding
the letter to be sent to the Secy of the Interior as well as some other
information and actions that will be taken. Per the legal explanation in the
minutes, Dan stated that the US has a seat on the Board from 2005-09. During
this time frame, no country seated on the UN board may receive the formal
nomination for designation. By expiration of that board seat in Oct 09- the
County will formally contact NPS regarding this ordinance and prior ordinances
requiring participation and notification of any nominations, identify the
personnel connected with the international affairs group working on the
nominations, site violations of the people identified with the nomination and
violations of NEPA and all 4 ordinances. We have sent a letter regarding
opposition to the World Heritage Designation/and tentative list. Although there
is time involved to take action on all these suggested actions, we need to keep
it rolling. I will make sure this is on our projects in progress so that it is
continually followed and updated.

Hope there is a good showing for
the tax hearing. I dont believe there will be action with just Doug and I there
tomorrow. I understand the spaceport authority is interested in polling the
community to gage support on the issue prior to a ballot question. I could go
on.

I let you know any other information I find on these 2 issues
that you have requested.

Clarissa

Also 6/11/08
Per the USFS today, the boulders are going to
be used for landscaping at the new building and at some campgrounds. They will
make sure none are blocking road access.

BINGAMAN INTRODUCES SECURE WATER ACT: S2156

BOOK YOUR JOURNEY INTO SPACE WITH VIRGIN GALATIC HERE

http://www.galacticjourneys.com/?gclid=CJTyqKep6pUCFQFrGgod2j74eg

"Founders

Founders will take the first 100 commercial seats. They will be world’s first private astronauts who will be in the vanguard of a new industry. In order to guarantee one of these first 100 seats we are asking for payment of the full projected ticket price of US$200,000 as an up-front (but fully refundable) deposit. In return for this significant commitment we offer our Founders a high degree of involvement in the project as it progresses; to meet with its key proponents and to provide ideas and feedback to help Virgin Galactic get the details right. Founder seats are almost all sold so are reservations are being taken on a waitlist basis only.

Pioneers

Pioneers will gain their Virgin Galactic astronaut wings after Founders. Comprising 400 individuals, all of whom can expect to be amongst the first 1000 humans in space and to fly within Virgin Galactic’s first year of operation. Pioneers are being asked to secure a numbered seat reservation by paying an up-front deposit as follows…

~~US$200,000 to be among seat numbers     1 to 100~~  **-SOLD OUT-**

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                       Call 1-800-220-TRIP to reserve your ticket today!!

US$125,000 to be among seat numbers 300 to 399

US$100,000 to be among seat numbers 400 to 500"

NM Spaceport Contractor DMJM

New York Times, July 15, 2008, Expert Hired at Ground Zero Despite '05 Ethics Violation
The Port Authority has named an engineering consultant to the World Trade Center project who resigned from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority three years ago over his dealings with an architectural firm that also plays an important role at ground zero.
The engineer, Joseph N. Siano, is to be a consultant to the chief of capital planning, David Tweedy. In describing his new job, the authority said Mr. Siano ''will focus on engineering analyses required to advance'' the trade center and other projects.
Until April 2005, Mr. Siano was a senior vice president at M.T.A. Capital Construction, which manages major building projects. In a proceeding before the state's Ethics Commission, he admitted violating the law by having accepted gifts from the architectural firm DMJM Harris (now DMJM H&N/Aecom), which was doing business with the transportation authority.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02E5DA113AF936A25754C0A96E9C8B63&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY STUDY ON COMMERCIAL SPACEPORTS: 2002

Page: 8

" Today, almost two dozen active spaceports worldwide are capable of launching payloads into orbit; two of them have launched people. Of the four US civil spaceports licensed by the FAA, three have launched commercial payloads: Spaceport Florida, California Spaceport, and the Kodiak Launch Complex (KLC) in Alaska. The fourth spaceport is the Virginia Space Flight Center (VSFC) in Wallops Island, Virginia. Despite this encouraging start, the FAA Office of Commercial Space Development estimates that in the next decade, an annual average of 46 commercial payloads will be flown on 32
launches worldwide.6 This is not nearly enough demand to profitably support current US civil spaceports, let alone new spaceports."

http://www.gmupolicy.net/transport2003/Spaceport%20Infrastructure%20Handbook%20PDF%2011_2002/PartIA11_01_02.pdf

EVERYDAY ENVIRONMENTALISM, CARBON OFFSETS, AND DECREASE EMPLOYEE COMMUTES

Janet writes in a post below:
"Would the Spaceport Authority protect against the takeover by foreign concerns? Nope. In fact Spaceport Authority has already contracted with DMJM for architectural services. Sounds benign, right? Turns out that DMJM - Daniel, Mann, Johnson, & Mendenhall (architecture, engineering, and construction services firm) is a global firm headquartered in Los Angeles. Mr. Landeene said he did not know where their headquarters are - who believed that whopper?

DMJM will be awarding the contracts for construction and probably the management of the spaceport. Let's take a look at who DMJM contracts with and you decide if any contractor or business in Southern New Mexico has a snowball's chance of participating in NM Spaceport:

Here is the link to their Global Offices: http://www.dmjmhn.aecom.com/Office/38/47/index.jsp

Cruise the DMJMHN website link below and click on 'EVERYDAY ENVIRONMENTALISM'. This link will take the reader to a very informative cyber-pamplet on how DJMHN employees AND customers can purchase carbon offsets and reduce their carbon footprint commuting to work via something rather than their cars, ie; biking, mass trans, or the subway...you know...the subway that goes from here to Sierra County. If the Spaceport gets voted in by Otero County Republicans and other registered electors, I'm betting at some point we will be asked to pay for our carbon 'sins' by paying or buying carbon offsets from the next 'green' huckster that has their environmentally friendly hand out.

Link to EVERYDAY ENVIRONMENTALISM:

http://www.dmjmhn.aecom.com/media/4838.pdf

BRANSON & WEALTHY PALS MEET TO SAVE WORLD by GREG STRANGE

"Don’t you just love it when a gaggle of rich liberal entrepreneurs gather together on a fabulous Caribbean estate, having arrived by yacht and private jet, to plot how they’re going to save the world and make a ton of money doing it? "

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/26/richard-branson-and-wealthy-pals-meet-in-caribbean-to-plot-world-salvation/

Greg Strange provides conservative commentary with plenty of acerbic wit on the people, politics, events and absurdities of our time. See more at his website:http://www.greg-strange.com/.

HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA & PROJECT REDSTONE

Without going into a history lecture; the pictures below are of Huntsville, Alabama. Spaceport spokesman, Steve Landain, presented to the Otero County Commissioners on Aug. 21 at the commissioners meeting. One of his selling points was bringing the space industry to Alamogordo. Huntsville and project Redstone were built around gantry launched rockets and Werner von Braun. Look at the Spaceport'shorizonal launched plane with a small booster rocket to propel it into sub-space, non-orbital 'flight'. Does anyone really believe that type of craft will create a space industry in Alamogordo, similar to Huntsville, Alabama?

Dangerous Business by Pat Choate

From one of the most respected and vigorous economic thinkers in Washington, a wake-up call about the perils of unfettered globalization. In this impassioned, prescient book, Pat Choate shows us that while increased worldwide economic integration has some benefits for our fiscal efficiency, it also creates dependencies, vulnerabilities, national security risks, and social costs that now outweigh its advantages. He takes the long view of developments such as technology-driven progress, the offshoring of jobs, and open trade, arguing that current U.S. policies are leading to worldwide economic and political instability, in much the same way as before the Great Depression.

U.N. World Heritage Site Designation for White Sands N M Update Promised at Otero County Commission

At the Regular Meeting on 5/15/07 county attorney, Dan Bryant, promised to get an update on the WHS designation and get that information to ORF co-administrator Janet White who made the request. County Commissioner Clarissa McGinn noted that the last action of the commission was to direct Dan Bryant to send letters to the Department of Interior seeking a dispostion of the designation. Apparently, this was not done and if I am wrong I will put up a notice. In the meantime, we await Mr. Bryant's communication.

Also presented to the Commission were two photos of large boulders being placed in Dry Canyon behind locked gates to Lincoln National Forest. Who is liable in the event of flood? Did the FS do an EA, CE, etc? What is the purpose of the boulders? A reliable source said they are there to be used to block off access by off road vehicles. Commissioner Nivison was told they are being stored there for future use in a FS building. Photo below.

Google cranks up the Consensus Engine

Google this week admitted that its staff will pick and choose what appears in its search results. It's a historic statement - and nobody has yet grasped its significance.

Not so very long ago, Google disclaimed responsibility for
its search results by explaining that these were chosen by a computer algorithm. The disclaimer lives on at Google News, where we are assured that:

The selection and placement of stories on this page were determined automatically by a computer program.

Complete Register story at: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/googlewashing_revisited/

Spineless Jellyfish Alert and It Is Not Bruce Thompson

"Jellyfish gone wild ruin tourist spots, report says....WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Huge swarms of stinging jellyfish and similar slimy animals are ruining beaches in Hawaii, the Gulf of Mexico, the Mediterranean, Australia and elsewhere, U.S. researchers reported on Friday....And (you guessed it) Human activities that could be making things nice for jellyfish include pollution, climate change, introductions of non-native species, overfishing and building artificial structures such as oil and gas rigs." Click on jelly fish image above for full story.

Mike Haymes

Mike Haymes quits his Monday, Wednesday and Friday 7 am radio show after many years.

The Haymes show was the only local media outlet where the establishment would be criticized. Mike took on the govenor, mayor, city and county commissions, stoplights, smoking, seatbelts and more. It was the last bastion of free speech in Otero County.

Give the owners of KRSY a shout and let them know we supported this show and its advertisers.

The contact information for the owner(s) of KRSY 1230 AM can be found by clicking this address http://www.wpmedialending.com/content/contact.asp

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If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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(a) A “foreign state”, except as used in section 1608 of this title, includes a political subdivision of a foreign state or an agency or instrumentality of a foreign state as defined in subsection (b).

(b) An “agency or instrumentality of a foreign state” means any entity—

(1) which is a separate legal person, corporate or otherwise, and

(2) which is an organ of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, or a majority of whose shares or other ownership interest is owned by a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, and

(3) which is neither a citizen of a State of the United States as defined in section 1332 (c) and (e) of this title, nor created under the laws of any third country.

(c) The “United States” includes all territory and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

(d) A “commercial activity” means either a regular course of commercial conduct or a particular commercial transaction or act. The commercial character of an activity shall be determined by reference to the nature of the course of conduct or particular transaction or act, rather than by reference to its purpose.

(e) A “commercial activity carried on in the United States by a foreign state” means commercial activity carried on by such state and having substantial contact with the United States.

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